Yes he does, according to his partner Kim Eng.
It’s such a curious question isn’t it: “Are spiritual people, truly enlightened people, vegetarians?” And the answer is clearly “not necessarily.”
If you look at the great spiritual masters, there’s no common theme with regards to meat eating. Buddha wasn’t rigid about it and said it was okay if you were offered it, the Dalai Lama follows this path and is vegetarian at home but will eat meat if away.
Jesus fed the 5000 fish and loaves which he magically produced. Jesus said “What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” Matthew 15:11. And “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear.” Luke 12:22
And enlightened master Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, of “I AM THAT” fame, had no issue with meat eating or even smoking. Here’s an excerpt from I AM THAT…
Q: My body influences me deeply. In more than one way my body is my destiny. My character, my moods, the nature of my reactions, my desires and fears — inborn or acquired — they are all based on the body. A little alcohol, some drug or other and all changes. Until the drug wears off I become another man.
M: All this happens because you think yourself to be the body. realise your real self and even drugs will have no power over you.
Q: You smoke?
M: My body kept a few habits which may as well continue till it dies. There is no harm in them.
Q: You eat meat?
M: I was born among meat-eating people and my children are eating meat. I eat very little — and make no fuss.
Q: Meat-eating implies killing.
M: Obviously. I make no claims of consistency. You think absolute consistency is possible; prove it by example. Don’t preach what you do not practise.
Similarly, here’s what Ramana Maharshi had to say on the subject:
M: Habit is only adjustment to the environment. It is the mind that matters. The fact is that the mind has been trained to think certain foods tasty and good. The food material is to be had both in vegetarian and non-vegetarian diet equally well. But the mind desires such food as it is accustomed to and considers tasty.
D: Are there restrictions for the realised man in a similar manner?
M: No. He is steady and not influenced by the food he takes.
Eckhart Tolle sees life as one dynamic whole; an inter-connectedness, an inter-action, oneness. Life eats life, everywhere…
I saw on TV the other day, whales hunting. They pincered a shoal of fish and then came from underneath to catch thousands in one mouthful. Does that make a whale evil?
Having had my head into nutrition for over 20 years, I’m uncomfortable from a health point of view with pure vegetarianism (and the dairy industry is crueler than the meat industry so I’m told by vegans).
Interestingly, I’ve seen Eckhart Tolle dodge this question many times in seminars and TV interviews. He just advises to…
Be present with whatever your food choices are and then the right food choice will happen for you… it needs to come from within rather than as something from without.
This view is perfectly echoed by non-physical beings Abraham, channeled by Esther Hicks…
Imagine if you could let being aligned be your first priority — a lot of vegans would be inspired to a lot of eating that their veganism would not allow, but the source within them would call them toward.
— Abraham-Hicks
Yet another echo of the same perspective from Adyashanti:
Safransky: Could killing animals to eat them come from wholeness?
Adyashanti: Sure. Life is killing. If we eat a vegetable, we’ve killed it. If we eat an animal, we’ve killed it. To be a living organism is to kill. There is no life without death. When we die, we’re going to be nutrients for something else.
I don’t see life as “anything goes,” but I have seen wholeness move through different people in different ways. That’s why I’m always talking about action that comes from wholeness, not from division, nor rejection, nor grasping, nor pushing away. What motivates us when we’re not pushing or grasping, not relying on conditioned concepts of right and wrong, good and bad? Is there something else that can move us? And what is that? Action that is an expression of a clear and undivided state of consciousness is what the Buddha meant by “right action.” To exercise right action we must be functioning from a place outside of all egoic self-interest. We must be awake within the dream and be able to express that perspective.
The take-home message…
…from these spiritual masters is clear: Be whole, then see what you do.
People’s pre-judgement on the basis of this issue would be detrimental to their own enlightenment. Because if you saw as Eckhart does, life as oneness, then you would probably also not be overly concerned about any particular FORM, as all the forms are continuously morphing and changing. In fact, there is only life and it is ONE life, there is no death anywhere to be seen! And… life eats life, everywhere. My cat isn’t evil for eating mice.
What do you think? Do you think vegetarians are more spiritual? Please let us know by leaving a comment below.
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It’s one thing to say glibly that “life eats life” and that to survive we must kill, even if ‘only’ vegetables but I don’t think any of these people would condone killing and eating other humans. When we are at a retreat or Satsang we can hopefully relax with the assumption that we will not become the next meal for the rest of the sangha. We are all part of the cycle of life and will all die but that is not a justification for murder. That we somehow think it’s acceptable to inflict violent death upon others simply because they are expressing and experiencing life through a body other than a human one isn’t a sign of liberation, it’s a sign of still being enslaved to our conditioned prejudice.
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Playing devil’s advocate I would say that not eating meat is conditioned prejudice, since humans living natural lives in the wild, unconditioned by thoughts, do eat a wide variety of plant and animal life. All animals in nature eat their natural diet, a dolphin is not evil for eating fish.
It’s all one life, and there is no death.
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Really it’s pretty simple. If you have enough money to make choices about whether or not you will consume animal products, not consuming them is a far more logical choice. It is generally healthier, has FAR less of an impact on the environment and obviously is the more compassionate choice.
Hunting or gathering your own animal products is another thing all together. Of course this is and has been a deeply spiritual part of life for many people’s accross the globe. Killing is not necessarily bad if it is done with respect and as a part of a sustainable ecosystem. Needlessly wasting the lives of animals can only come out of unconsciousness.
If you want to consciously make a difference to your mind, body and world, not to mention the lives of billions of animals, go vegan. For me, being vegan is a choice of compassion. But I’m not so strict as to cause myself suffering. ✌🏼️
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Being “enlightened” simply means you no longer listen to anyone else’s opinion or even your ego’s opinion, but you listen and follow your soul’s “opinion”. You listen and follow to your inner truth. That’s what being enlightened is. Simple.
And that means getting out of ego conversations about eating meat/not eating meat, etc. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. Listen to YOUR body and your intuition. FEEL what your body needs and give it to your body. That’s what means being aligned. It’s as simple as that.
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Good day .
Jesus wasn’t vegetarian. How is possible thinking that? The rappresentation of Love that kill ad eat his minor brothers….
The old and the new testament has been repeatedly manipolated during the time. The last one (officially) in the Council of Nicaea (325 d.c), where the world “food” in the new testament were replaced with the word “meat” for will of Costantin imperator. The “fish” mentionated in the gospels were seaweed pancake tipical of that time.
Hiltler wasn’ vegetarian. It’s historic lie. He and his “propaganda” ministry Boogels professed himself as vegetarian for promote his imagen. His favourite dish was stuffed pigeons, as tell us his female cook in her book.
And, For those who said the the vegan diet is insufficient, here there are the “damage” that ths diet can do :
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………………which will suffer greatly on a vegan diet? You clearly are not aware of vegan athletes and harmful effects of eating meat – slow debilitating death by 101 illnesses caused by eating meat. The animals revenge,
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