If you’re attracted to both these teachings you may be having trouble seeing how they fit together…
On the one hand Eckhart Tolle teaches that the source of all your troubles is your own ego. You’re lost in thought. You lack awareness or consciousness of your true, essential nature.
This is in line with the majority of spiritual teaching…
On the other hand, Abraham-Hicks and The Secret teach “You can have whatever you want.” “The universe is abundant.” “Place your order by putting yourself in the vibration of already having it, and it will be yours.”
At first it seems as though the two teachings are so different that there’s no reconciling them. One seems altruistic and the other, kind of selfish…
But in fact, the two teachings can be reconciled and both Jesus and Buddha taught that both these things are true.
In other words, we are both creative beings, who create primarily with thought and our essential nature is love — or the “one-life” that is the source of everything.
After all, if you think about it, nothing happens in life without it first happening as a thought. Or as Einstein put it “Nothing happens until something moves.” A great line.
So why doesn’t Eckhart Tolle also tell us how to get what we want?
Well, since the main problem really is the ego, and since we’re all creating anyway, the question is “Are you creating from the ego level, or from a higher level of awareness?” “Are you creating consciously, deliberately, or randomly?”
That’s very important as you can imagine. Spiritual teachings don’t deny that we have to create in this life. Nothing happens until something moves. They are just saying that the important thing is your state of consciousness.
The current state of the world is caused by ego consciousness, and the end result isn’t, by and large, very pretty — many, many problems and much suffering.
So, “Seek first the kingdom of God,” — deal with your ego, but also be aware that you create your life by what you think. Both are true.
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Hello again Someonelse :-)
I’ve given this a lot of thought over the years to try to make some practical sense of it all. This is my sum up:
1. Be the master of your mind-field. Be able to say “be still.” Be able to focus where you choose. Be able to say yes or no to thoughts. To achieve this could take a whole load of practice (meditation) as the mind has gotten out-of-control. Instead of our tool, it’s become our master and created a “self” for itself which isn’t real :-) All this continuous auto-thinking creates a “veil” — a continuous “projection” which stops us being aware of our true spiritual selves… like clouds blocking out the sun.
2. Think deliberately. Once you can direct your thinking or be still, then you can powerfully focus on whatever outcome you think is appropriate. Once you can be in your stillness, you see the connections clearly, the forces in operation at any given moment and so are more able to influence things in a good way.
Powerful focusing ability also means that your “goals” can come about more easily because 1. You are not only talking to your unconscious mind but “listening” for inspiration and ideas. 2. Your are not striving but purely creating. You are not coming from lack and so goals don’t have a sense of desperateness about them (I will be happy when I have “x”) 3. You do not trample others but in fact, your desire is more the helping/serving of others as you see that really, deep down, we are all connected, we all influence and affect each other… we are all one :-)
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hey! thanks for the reply, i hear what your saying. In the book new earth eckhart talks about sometimes having goals, and working towards them. Now if thats true about ramana maharshi i dunno if i want to be in that state, but one thing ive heard masters say for sure is that out of stillness does come action, and that the world we live in is no different from spirit itself, which makes sense to me aswell. Like that ancient saying, before enlightenment chop wood, after enlightenment chop wood, ie spirituality is in no way seperate from our lives as we know it.
Eckhart talks about having goals and ‘riding the wave’ of them, which is cool but the only problem iv started to have with Abraham is the daydreaming fantasy part which doesnt necassarily lead to action. This idea of just thinking it through….again barry long talks about ‘thought which doesnt lead to action’ as being the start of the problematic mind. Maybe its just a question of the words being used, but I used to listen to abraham a lot and now ive seemed to have gone off it. Ive seen just a few dubious things like one time they summoned energy which apparently the audience could see and started to gasp and be amazed, which seemed like a vulgar display of power. Also the fact that the entities arent even physical, which begs the very dangerous question of whether they should be possessing other bodies at all, im not gonna pretend to know anything about that!
But i certainly hear what your saying too, and it sometimes goes round in circles! lol
Peace to you
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Hi Someonelse,
Eckhart Tolle has actually said that in future we will manifest things by thinking! It’s not his focus and I don’t think he even knew about it until recently.
He had a spontanteous awakening and was immersed in bliss states for years. He can’t even figure out how he managed to do the things necessary to survive :-)
That’s because it’s a DESIRELESS, perfect state. I read about Ramana Maharishi… he was basically saved by people who found him and took care of him because he was in bliss… no desire to do anything!!
To be here, there has to be some desire! But there are different sort of desire. The one you don’t want is the one where is there a sense of lack.
We MUST create if we’re alive, we much choose, we must desire… “prefer” if you prefer :-)
If your friend says “Do you want eggs or beans for dinner” you must choose. We make thousands of choices every day.
To be PERFECTLY in the moment is to be in bliss. You will desire nothing and could not function!
But when the ego is dead, THEN we are making different choices, higher choices. We see into situations and see all the connections better.
I am like you, I think Eckharts “way” is better. Seek first the kingdom!! :-) And where is that? WITHIN :-) Eckhart is saying nothing new, although he is saying it better and clearer than most.
We do not have the power to manifest anything if our minds are all over the place. It takes incredible self-mastery. But as we mature we get bigger toys to play with :-)
Manifestion is nothing more than understanding and applying the laws that exist. We move into our vision, that’s not hard to appreciate.
As I say, I’m with you on “the way.” But still, we are choosing, creating with our thoughts. We must, we cannot survive or function without desire. Even to get out of bed you must have desire.
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To be honest i dont see how these two can be compatible with each other, as soon as you want something that is not the present moment you have already left the present moment.
To me abrahams message was obviously very attractive because it tells you that daydreaming about the future, (which we all want to do) is a good thing to do, whereas ive found it to be a dangerous thing to do, arguing with reality, setting yourself up for some serious falls. One thing id like to point out is that although the ‘intelligence abraham’ clearly means well and there is genuine well wishing behind their message, they are not physical beings. An australian master called Barry Long spoke about ascended masters being (im now quoting from him) ‘long-dead entities that use living people channel their teachings’, he goes on to say that ‘A half-master is not the master, just as a half-truth is not the truth’. You can google barry long and ascended masters, and he does maintain essentialy that they dont know what theyre saying is wrong and it is their own ignorance to speak this way.
I dont know if Abraham is one of these that he was reffering to but honestly having listened to them for a long while i found their teachings to be unsustainable, every daydream will run into obstacles, every positive expectation has the seed of a poetntial negative event. Few things that Abe has said like ‘thought is ultimately more satisfying than no thought,’ hasnt been true in my experience! Being in the now, you need no thought of the future, but life is good now and that is all you need. This is just my two cents.
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it is neccessary to find joy while being in this human form therefore the law of attraction is a way to fullfil that dream but without being completely present in the moment you can never be at peace so i find both these theories go so well together and find that one cannot do without the other-
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